The American Underground

Also remember Flight 77 that supposedly hit the Pentagon. (note to reader: The first stone laid in the construction of the Pentagon was on Sep. 11, 1941.0

This also ties in with my O-12 Codex. See: http://www.wachadoo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4

The number 7 & 11 are in red. 7x11=77

I see this all as Illuminatti Blood Rituals.

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The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. -Plato

I dont understand what 77 has to do with Freemasonry???

I know there are a lot of significant numbers in Masonry, but I am not familiar with 77. Maybe you can clarify on the subject.

I listened to a reading of "On a Pale Horse" last night. I am haunted by the theories about secret societies roles in the New World Order. I have some experience with various levels of certain societies, and one experience I had during an initiation left me with a strong impression that there is real magic involved. It doesnt occure all of the time, but when the moon and stars are in the right position, and the initiates are all going through for all of the right reasons, and the ceremonies are performed like they should be, something magic happens.
This was total chaos. Not is the disorder form of chaos, but something more manifest. It spoke to me through symbols, feelings, and most of all a power that I had never felt before.

I wrote a lot more, in this post, but deceided to erase it. It serves no purpose to divulge this information. Let me say though, I always wonder if others feel this magic too. No one has spoke it aloud to me. I have not socialised with the brethren in a long time.

The main thing is, though, if it is really Chaos that is driving these people, and influencing their decisions, and pushing their objectives, then they are in fact more sinister, more diabolic, and more purposfull than any of you can imagine.

This may prove to be no more than rambling thoughts put to written word, but as I write them, I get the feeling that the thoughts have yet to come together in to the cognitive form that is their destination,.

- Think about Chaos as a reason for invading Iraq. Think about Chaos as a reason for destroying out environment. Think about Chaos as a reason for spreading Aids, bankrupting our nation, and shitting on the Constitution... It all sort of makes sence. All of the pieces sort of fall into the right place.

Does anyone know of a God of Chaos? Is there perhaps one in the form of an Owl, that spreads leaves, and causes a great wind with its wings?

- Jedimaster

Hey Jedimaster,

I could sit here and ramble on but it's better if you get it directly from Mike Bara. The following article addresses almost all of your questions.

(it's a lenghty article but well worth a few reads)
http://www.enterprisemission.com/millenn.htm

As far as magic through chaos? Of course. Ever heard of the Chaos magicians of the mid 1980's?. For the past two hundred years magical practices that work have been driven deep underground. The Church and moral majority branding it evil, which in many cases it may be, yet I'm sure there are magical rituals that are no more sinister that a lolly pop. I think these elitist thrive on the Choas/Order aspect of magic because this is the very essence of nature. Grow a thousand year forest, then burn it down with lightning, thus creating a whole new rebirth. Much like the mythological pheonix. Any aspect of nature can be viewed as order and chaos. Much like the yin and yang. But the real problem here is using that magic to control others. Some would say that if you are not strong enough to liberate yourself then you need to be lead or controled. Or that it is their right to control you because of their so called "royale" bllodline. This is poppycock. Yeah, dumb people need guidence, but they do not need to be controled unless they ask for it.

So many diffrent directions to go with this. 77 is a master number and is also an ANCIENT GEMATRIAN NUMBER. see:
http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm

I'll be diggin futher into this at a later date.

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The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. -Plato